En los próximos diez años, es posible realizar un referéndum popular sobre la reunificación de la isla de Irlanda, según las valoraciones de la recién elegida primera ministra de Irlanda del Norte, Michelle O’Neill.
O’Neill describió su elección como “un día histórico, verdadero epítome de un nuevo amanecer”. También señaló que su campaña se basó en ser la “primera ministra para todos”, rompiendo con la tradición republicana al utilizar el término “Irlanda del Norte”. “Soy alguien que quiere unificar. Soy alguien que quiere unir a la gente”, subrayó.
O’Neill
Preguntada sobre si está de acuerdo con la afirmación de la líder de su partido, Mary Lou McDonald, de que una Irlanda unida está “a tiro de piedra” en lugar de a “décadas” de distancia, O’Neill dijo que cree que Irlanda del Norte asiste a “una década de oportunidades”.
“Hay muchas cosas que están cambiando. Todas las viejas normas, la naturaleza de este Estado, el hecho de que un republicano nacionalista nunca debió ser primer ministro. Todo eso habla del cambio”, agregó.
En febrero de 2023, el Reino Unido y la Unión Europea llegaron a un acuerdo sobre Irlanda del Norte, conocido como ‘el marco de Windsor’, que pretendía acabar con las controversias entre Londres y Bruselas, dar luz verde al comercio fluido en todo el Reino Unido y proteger las ventajas especiales reservadas para los norirlandeses.
No obstante, ciertas desavenencias internas, entre las autoridades regionales y centrales británicas, se mantuvieron durante los meses posteriores.
It is a topic that will be discussed as long as partition exists but in reality demographics will handle this. In about another 10 years time unionists will under severe pressure at the ballot box and their attitude will have to change. There will be no choice. From the days of NI being gerrymandered to make a 65% Protestant state things have turned on their head. Until then most of this is white noise.
Needs overwhelming majority in favour of a United Ireland. 51 to 49% in favour example could release major Civil unrest in my opinion. Just a gut feeling wouldn’t mind if I was proven wrong.
I would caution this idea. A significant portion of foreign nationals from perceived Catholic countries now reside in Northern Ireland and had to complete the manditory Census for fear of getting fined. So this would have resulted in an increase in the Catholic return (so to speak). Therefore there may well be a majority of Catholics residing in NI but they are not all Irish Catholics with an interest in the constitutional flux of NI. I would also note that any foreign nationals living in NI chose to come here (I dont know why either) instead of the ROI or any other EU country for that matter, so its constitional position within UK may have impacted that decision. So its not a forgone conclusion they would back a United Ireland either. On that note, there are many Catholics living in NI that are happy with the way things are and Protestants that would be ok with a United Ireland – so religious backgrounds doesnt provide any comfort in how the nationalistic mindset of each individual would flow. As an NI resident that has friends on both sides of the house, I can assure you the matter of a boarder poll is way way down the priority list ATM for many. It mainly a theme that presents itself around election time to spear on the continued divides between the two communities to ensure the continued domimation of Sinn Fien and DUP. They are as bad as each other – don’t be fooled.
Ireland is doing fine as it is. Partition was a compromise at the time. Why take on the Brits up north when they clearly wouldn’t be interested and could bring about more violence that Ireland wouldn’t be able to deal with.
I’d be happy to have a united Ireland, provided it’s inclusive, and NI prods are welcome too. Now that Ireland is no longer a catholic theocracy, governed by priests, I doubt protestants need to fear anymore
Un hombre entra a un pub en Irlanda y pregunta: “¿Es demasiado temprano para tomar una copa?”
El camarero responde: “Sí, faltan 10 minutos para la hora de apertura, pero podes esperar allí (señala una silla)”.
El hombre da las gracias y se sienta, luego el camarero dice: “Queres tomar algo mientras esperas”.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
It would probably negatively affect some parts of the country in the short term financially but in the medium and long term it would benefit everyone. So – yes, I’ll take a bit of short-term pain for long term gain for the nation.
As someone from the republic of Ireland I’d disagree that most people down South wouldn’t want a one Ireland team, think a clear majority would, and also no reason that all the games would have to be in Dublin either, could have a good percentage of the games in Belfast as far as I’m concerned, and for that matter in other parts of the island if it were feasible. I also get the point that if you are born in one part of the island you should play for that part as it currently stands, BUT and former N.I. manager Michael O’Neill mentioned it too before, God Save the queen as the N.I. anthem is an anathema to players from the nationalist community in The north, could ye not have something that both communities could stand for with pride. Anyway GL N.I., hope we both make it to the 2024 Euros.
I’ve never heard a Northern Irish fan even contemplate a united Ireland football team but like myself i know and have heard so many here in the Republic of Ireland who can only see the benefit if it were to happen. Why is this the case?
It won’t never ever happen because there’s too many lads in suits who’ve never kicked a ball making a great living who’d lose a job if the teams were amalgamated.
All this talk of a United Ireland while meanwhile south of the border in Dublin. Irish patriots are finally demonstrating in large numbers about their country being flooded with so called refugees from countries that are not even at war. It’s all coming to a head and it doesn’t look good.
Seems odd that nationalists have fought for Irish identity then be massively in favour of open border immigration. A lot of old school Irish nationalists seem to not agree with this policy. They oddly seem to be on the same side on this issue as the hardline unionists
Facts: The 1922 Anglo Irish Treaty which led to the formation of the statelet of Northern Ireland was forced on the Irish nation. Under a threat of a resumption of British military violence the Irish negotiators agreed to the division of the country for the sake of peace. Not all agreed with the decision, leading to civil war. The N I troubles which erupted in the 70’s was caused by discrimination against a sizeable minority of the population . The perpetrators were acting with the approval of the British Government. Brexit is the latest example of how policy decisions taken in London do not benefit Ireland. Isn’t it obvious that Ireland would be better off managing its own affairs?
People talk about nationalism and unionism but what is un-PC to say these days is it is the first Catholic First Minister in NI. That state was set up to be a Protestant state for a Protestant people. If the Protestant part is taken out or becoming less and less significant what is NI left with? The 12th of July, the national bank holiday of NI is a pro-Protestant, anti-Catholic one. The banks have bust and a united Ireland is now absolutely inevitable.
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O’Neill describió su elección como “un día histórico, verdadero epítome de un nuevo amanecer”. También señaló que su campaña se basó en ser la “primera ministra para todos”, rompiendo con la tradición republicana al utilizar el término “Irlanda del Norte”. “Soy alguien que quiere unificar. Soy alguien que quiere unir a la gente”, subrayó.
Preguntada sobre si está de acuerdo con la afirmación de la líder de su partido, Mary Lou McDonald, de que una Irlanda unida está “a tiro de piedra” en lugar de a “décadas” de distancia, O’Neill dijo que cree que Irlanda del Norte asiste a “una década de oportunidades”.
“Hay muchas cosas que están cambiando. Todas las viejas normas, la naturaleza de este Estado, el hecho de que un republicano nacionalista nunca debió ser primer ministro. Todo eso habla del cambio”, agregó.
En febrero de 2023, el Reino Unido y la Unión Europea llegaron a un acuerdo sobre Irlanda del Norte, conocido como ‘el marco de Windsor’, que pretendía acabar con las controversias entre Londres y Bruselas, dar luz verde al comercio fluido en todo el Reino Unido y proteger las ventajas especiales reservadas para los norirlandeses.
No obstante, ciertas desavenencias internas, entre las autoridades regionales y centrales británicas, se mantuvieron durante los meses posteriores.
PrisioneroEnArgentina.com
Febrero 6, 2024
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CommentIt is a topic that will be discussed as long as partition exists but in reality demographics will handle this. In about another 10 years time unionists will under severe pressure at the ballot box and their attitude will have to change. There will be no choice. From the days of NI being gerrymandered to make a 65% Protestant state things have turned on their head. Until then most of this is white noise.
Needs overwhelming majority in favour of a United Ireland. 51 to 49% in favour example could release major Civil unrest in my opinion. Just a gut feeling wouldn’t mind if I was proven wrong.
my hope is that whatever Ireland decides, it works out for the best
My scope is limited but I support a United Ireland. It should’ve always been it’s own.
Ireland doesn’t belong to the Irish anymore. How would a United one?
I would caution this idea. A significant portion of foreign nationals from perceived Catholic countries now reside in Northern Ireland and had to complete the manditory Census for fear of getting fined. So this would have resulted in an increase in the Catholic return (so to speak). Therefore there may well be a majority of Catholics residing in NI but they are not all Irish Catholics with an interest in the constitutional flux of NI. I would also note that any foreign nationals living in NI chose to come here (I dont know why either) instead of the ROI or any other EU country for that matter, so its constitional position within UK may have impacted that decision. So its not a forgone conclusion they would back a United Ireland either. On that note, there are many Catholics living in NI that are happy with the way things are and Protestants that would be ok with a United Ireland – so religious backgrounds doesnt provide any comfort in how the nationalistic mindset of each individual would flow. As an NI resident that has friends on both sides of the house, I can assure you the matter of a boarder poll is way way down the priority list ATM for many. It mainly a theme that presents itself around election time to spear on the continued divides between the two communities to ensure the continued domimation of Sinn Fien and DUP. They are as bad as each other – don’t be fooled.
I Adon’t see it happening.
a united Ireland is an abstract concept.
It is needed both sides of ulster divide to integrate first.
Ireland is doing fine as it is. Partition was a compromise at the time. Why take on the Brits up north when they clearly wouldn’t be interested and could bring about more violence that Ireland wouldn’t be able to deal with.
I’d be happy to have a united Ireland, provided it’s inclusive, and NI prods are welcome too. Now that Ireland is no longer a catholic theocracy, governed by priests, I doubt protestants need to fear anymore
Un hombre entra a un pub en Irlanda y pregunta:
“¿Es demasiado temprano para tomar una copa?”
El camarero responde:
“Sí, faltan 10 minutos para la hora de apertura, pero podes esperar allí (señala una silla)”.
El hombre da las gracias y se sienta, luego el camarero dice:
“Queres tomar algo mientras esperas”.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I would vote for a united Ireland 100 %
its not that “we want” a united Ireland its that “WE NEED” a united Ireland
It would probably negatively affect some parts of the country in the short term financially but in the medium and long term it would benefit everyone. So – yes, I’ll take a bit of short-term pain for long term gain for the nation.
There is pros and cons to a united Ireland. For me however, living on the border the answer can only ever be a yes !
I wouldnt mind an all Ireland team like rugby, but I’ve always said it would never happen in forming only one country as its too far gone.
As someone from the republic of Ireland I’d disagree that most people down South wouldn’t want a one Ireland team, think a clear majority would, and also no reason that all the games would have to be in Dublin either, could have a good percentage of the games in Belfast as far as I’m concerned, and for that matter in other parts of the island if it were feasible. I also get the point that if you are born in one part of the island you should play for that part as it currently stands, BUT and former N.I. manager Michael O’Neill mentioned it too before, God Save the queen as the N.I. anthem is an anathema to players from the nationalist community in The north, could ye not have something that both communities could stand for with pride. Anyway GL N.I., hope we both make it to the 2024 Euros.
I’ve never heard a Northern Irish fan even contemplate a united Ireland football team but like myself i know and have heard so many here in the Republic of Ireland who can only see the benefit if it were to happen. Why is this the case?
I wonder what football has to do with this…
The NI fans are not a complete reflection of the NI populace (speaking as an ROI fan living in NI)
It won’t never ever happen because there’s too many lads in suits who’ve never kicked a ball making a great living who’d lose a job if the teams were amalgamated.
I don’t see it happening any time soon
Don’t think it’s gonna be optional in the years to come.
All this talk of a United Ireland while meanwhile south of the border in Dublin. Irish patriots are finally demonstrating in large numbers about their country being flooded with so called refugees from countries that are not even at war. It’s all coming to a head and it doesn’t look good.
big question is what will it cost? I’m not aware that any cost projections have been published.
£3bn according to a study by Prof John Doyle from the Department of Politics at Dublin City University.
Really????
Dang
The recent formation of a functioning government in Northern Ireland and the growing support for a referendum on Irish unity within the next 10 years highlight the evolving political landscape. While the Republic of Ireland is seen as more appealing to young people, the top priorities for most people in Northern Ireland are healthcare and education. The impact of Brexit and the general election in the Republic of Ireland could further shape the future of Northern Ireland, but stability and addressing immediate issues like Brexit remain the main concerns for its people.
Seems odd that nationalists have fought for Irish identity then be massively in favour of open border immigration. A lot of old school Irish nationalists seem to not agree with this policy. They oddly seem to be on the same side on this issue as the hardline unionists
Facts: The 1922 Anglo Irish Treaty which led to the formation of the statelet of Northern Ireland was forced on the Irish nation. Under a threat of a resumption of British military violence the Irish negotiators agreed to the division of the country for the sake of peace. Not all agreed with the decision, leading to civil war. The N I troubles which erupted in the 70’s was caused by discrimination against a sizeable minority of the population . The perpetrators were acting with the approval of the British Government. Brexit is the latest example of how policy decisions taken in London do not benefit Ireland. Isn’t it obvious that Ireland would be better off managing its own affairs?
Brexit has helped the Republics economy ,25% increase in exports to UK and 12% decrease in imports from UK, plus Irish unity in sight
People talk about nationalism and unionism but what is un-PC to say these days is it is the first Catholic First Minister in NI. That state was set up to be a Protestant state for a Protestant people. If the Protestant part is taken out or becoming less and less significant what is NI left with? The 12th of July, the national bank holiday of NI is a pro-Protestant, anti-Catholic one. The banks have bust and a united Ireland is now absolutely inevitable.
Young people in NI are attracted to the quality of governance in the republic. Which has been infinitely better, than the conservatives in the UK